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Why is iCraft not taking off?

thefinickystitcher


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« on: March 15, 2009, 10:57:01 pm »

I think the look of iCraft is really nice and everything about it seems like it should do really well. It is very easy to list items and the pricing is also great. But...
It just seems like its kind of a ghost town to me, I really don't understand why it's not taking off. People seem to open their shops and then disappear. I clicked the 'creators' tab above and there is 35 pages of sellers but I checked when they were last updated and I believe it was only the first six pages that have been updated this year. Even the message boards, I check daily to see whats new and sometimes there is only one new comment out of all the categories.

I'm not trying to put blame and I don't know what the solution would be, I'm just curious. There are similar sites out there that are not nearly as attractive in any way as this one yet they are getting more traffic. Does anyone have any ideas?  Smiley
GalleriaLinda


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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 07:05:46 am »

I hear what you are saying, finickysticher...think about this - iCraft is one of the few venues that takes handmade only.

The busiest sites I see are ones that take handmade, vintage, and commercial supplies. The commercial supplies category is a huge, busy category because you can get items for low dollar, need them to create, and therefore that category provides more volume more quickly and brings in traffic for those venues. That expanded traffic from those 3 segments helps an online venue mature more quickly. But, the traffic is disjointed in what they are looking for - diluted, you might say. iCraft is extremely focused on a niche market - hands-on designers and artists.

Since I sell handmade, I would much rather have steady traffic of buyers that are looking specifically for handmade. At least I know that those who are here browsing are looking for handmade items that I do provide and not for something I cannot provide, such as vintage or commercial supplies.

I agree that it is disconcerting that shops don't update. I think a lot of that is just not knowing how to "work" a shop. Many creators just decide to sell what they make because they have too much of their product laying around, but don't have knowledge in the online process that keeps their shops in the best light.

iCraft is still young in "online business years." It takes 3-5 years for a business to really take off.

I would love for the forum to be more active. By comparison, the Etsy forum was slow those first years too but I look forward to when the iCraft forum is hard to keep up with! It will get there.

By the way, I have been more successful on iCraft than other venues - I think because it brings in targeted buyers who appreciate and look for real handmade items.
thefinickystitcher


Posts: 24


« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2009, 02:01:08 am »

First, thank you GalleriaLinda for taking the time to reply, I appreciate it : )

I never thought about the fact that other similar sites also have the supply and vintage sellers to bring in more traffic. That is also one of things that attracted me to iCraft because the focus is just on handmade so I guess less traffic is the trade-off to that benefit. I agree with you that having a steady flow of traffic looking exclusively for handmade items is a benefit to all of us.

I wonder what can be done to help those with shops know the importance of keeping their shops up to date. I am fairly new, just a few months, to online selling so I don't have much to offer in advice. What I have learned has been from busier forums or articles that other sellers have written. I haven't had much opportunity to look around iCraft to see if what is offered to help new sellers, articles etc. I will make a point to do that in the next few days though.

As I said in my first post, I like everything about iCraft so I really hope that it does start to pick up. I need to have patience, thanks again ; )
Zs Knees


Posts: 114


« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 03:34:07 am »

I'm new to on-line selling too, and I think my expectations have been too high.

I was feeling pretty discouraged, until I opened a shop on another site (I don't know, is it a faux pas to name other sites?). No one is even Looking at my stuff there!

So I guess what I'm saying is, unfortunately, it could be worse!:)
GalleriaLinda


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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 08:28:40 am »

Even those of us who have been selling online for a few years are feeling the pinch these days.

Everyone has to go find their own traffic, even if the venue provides a certain amount of traffic. I think this is the one thing that new sellers don't realize, but in reality, it is the shop owner's responsibility.

It takes a lot of effort to drive people to your shop. Locally, hand out business cards, participate in craft shows, have trunk shows, talk it up, post on bulletin boards in stores, post on CraigsList.org for free classifieds, etc...

Ways sellers do that is to "be seen" online by posting in appropriate forums, online advertising, start a blog and promote the blog, taking advantage of call outs for blog profile features, join and participate in appropriate handmade networking, such as Plumdrop, ByHand.me, IndieSpotting, IndiePublic and many more, twitter, facebook, etc...

You might enjoy my blog that is targeted to you - the online seller that needs more business direction. http://IndieCEO.blogspot.com. On the left side is a blog roll for online business - check out those blogs too.

It takes a couple of years for an online seller like you and me to really become steady, not unlike a real store.

Read everything you can find about selling online. The Etsy forum is a great place to learn because there are many seasoned handmade online sellers there -- remember, Etsy is almost 4 years into online business and is maturing and you see that they are facing huge restructuring and transitions. It is all a part of the business growth.

I know I have seen articles on iCraft about running your shop but I could not find them. It would be good for Admin to put links to those articles on the side of our account page!

Best of luck to you both and hang in there.
iCraft will get there too.
Loopy4ewe


Posts: 84


« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 07:21:12 pm »

I love iCraft too! It's easy to upload new items, love that I can sell in cdn dollars. and of course the fees are pretty reasonable. Especailly once people start crashing down the doors to come shopping here!

I'm looking forward to the day it picks up.

If you want the forums to get busier - start posting more topics:) Promote the site. iCraft has been promoting themselves but we also need to promote too.

There are a few changes I'd love to see. I'd love to be able to browse stuff that's been listed recently without having to select a category. And I'd love to be able to select favorite shops that I can easily go back and look at (without bookmarking with my browser) and even select favorite items that I would consider buying in the future.
Northern Girl Jewelry


Posts: 199


« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 12:55:49 pm »

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I'd love to be able to browse stuff that's been listed recently without having to select a category.


This you can do Loopy.  When you go to Browse products, just don't select a category, click on the Search button instead.  It works for me.

I would like to be able to save shops or items too.  If it can be done currently, I haven't figured it out yet.
Zs Knees


Posts: 114


« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2009, 03:24:51 am »

I wanted to put in another vote for being able to choose favorite shops/items!

And thank you, GalleriaLinda, for your tips and advice. Self-promotion, marketing... not my fortes... But right now I just need to find more hours in the night to make things in the first place!

It'll all happen, I'm thinking positively. Smiley
Loopy4ewe


Posts: 84


« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2009, 12:09:09 pm »

Thanks Jewlery Without Borders!

I will have to give it a try Cheesy
thefinickystitcher


Posts: 24


« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2009, 01:26:39 pm »

Thanks everyone for your input, these are all good ideas.

I also posted in the "Website site suggestions etc.' section of the message boards and mentioned maybe iCraft sending out a newsletter weekly or even monthly to sellers. I think not only would it remind sellers to update their exhibits but inform them of changes like the recent price drop. It might also be a place to post article links that might help a seller learn about online selling.
I looked around iCraft and found very little help for people new to selling online. Any opinions on this?

I know it is our responsibility to bring our own customers in to our exhibits but I think the whole site reflects on all of us. Every attempt has to be made to keep the site moving forward instead of appearing stagnant to people browsing. Us all posting in the forums more often, as Loopy4ewe suggested, is a great start.

Keep the ideas coming, I thnk we all want iCraft to get going : )
swiekysiggies


Posts: 10


« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2009, 06:58:46 pm »

Hi everyone!  I do what I can to promote iCraft.  It's a beautiful site, and I am a bit surprised it's not more popular, but sometimes small is nice.  I put ads on my blog, and Twitter about it.  I like the ease of access here and the fact that you can add a listing all on one page.  Word-of-mouth advertising is very powerful, I guess we all just have to brag about iCraft!  :lol:
Fairy Cardmaker


Posts: 1115


« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2009, 12:18:02 am »

I think the main reason is that it is new.  We need to drive the traffic.

I know my shop has been mostly neglected because I only have time to focus efforts in one place at a time.  It's personal tax filing season in Canada and I'm a Chartered Accountant.  It doesn't make sense for me to buy a plan in April when I won't have time to list anything.

I'm going to buy a plan in May and start listing and promoting and building my presence here at that time.  I really like being able to price in Canadian dollars too!  So I plan on pushing this site more!

But... I have a valid excuse until April 30!!
swiekysiggies


Posts: 10


« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2009, 12:41:28 pm »

You mentioned that it is tax time in Canada, well also in the US.  It could be wishful thinking to assume that maybe Americans are waiting for their returns to spend some money.  You never know!  But promoting the site in whatever ways we all can is the best form of advertising.   Smiley
Fairy Cardmaker


Posts: 1115


« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2009, 11:05:33 pm »

Very true - and your tax deadline is earlier than ours.  By not being able to list more in April, I may be missing out on a lot of American buyers ready to spend their refunds!

Oh well, I can't win them all... sigh.

(But if any of you can beef up your stores, now is a good time!)
ficklefaerie


Posts: 54


« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2009, 09:29:20 pm »

I am one of the deglectfull ones on icraft....

I am a bit discouraged with the copying on etsy....every single categry is getting overloaded with the same thing, just different sellers. Maybe moving to icraft and promoting more will help to really kick things into high gear!\

Etsy was once in the same spot...slow and look where they are now!
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