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Day 5 What happened?

PillowThrowDecor


Posts: 1096


« on: November 05, 2009, 04:13:58 am »

Today is Twitter show and Tell... What went on in your world of twitter?
Callidora


Posts: 38


« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 08:44:52 am »

I've been on Twitter for a year, but I don't get it.  I have automatically linked my Facebook, Netflix, and blogs to add updates to Twitter for me, but I don't get on personally and do anything there.  I downloaded the TweetDeck today, so I'm going to try to learn how to use Twitter properly from you wonderful marketing gurus  Smiley

What does the #icraft do? Where do I put it?  At the beginning of a message, at the end?  Should I get rid of the people I'm following who are constantly advertising weird web services and products.  It's like they are real people, just robodialers.  Or it is better to have higher numbers?
Sirocco


Posts: 23


« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 11:05:14 am »

Well, it looks like we are going to be working with Twitter again. We worked with Twitter at the last Boot Camp and I was completely mystified by it. I still am. In a way I am happy that I will get to try to tackle it again but I am also dreading it. I can go to Twitter home and see the posts from those that I am following but the post make no sense. Just a lot of symbols! Here is a post from Linda:

GalleriaLinda  
RT @SackReligious: RT @andreasjewelry Promo peeps 4artists 2 #FF @handmadehighway @HandmadeNewsorg @IndieCEO @indiespotting @JustForFunHMN26 minutes ago from HootSuite

What do the symbols RT, @, #FF mean? What is HootSuit? What exactly does this post say? It is meaningless to me.

I recently added three new items to my Icraft store and suddenly I found those items being tweeted on Twitter by Icraft. How did that happen?

I installed TweetDeck and now I am getting pop-ups every so often that stay just long enough be a nuisance but not long enough to read. I turned it off!

Paul C
http://siroccostradingpost.blogspot.com/
Callidora


Posts: 38


« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 11:15:47 am »

Paul, I feel your pain.  I'm hoping to learn why this pest of social network is worthwhile.
storybeader


Posts: 69


« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 11:27:42 am »

can't wait till after work to study this   Cheesy   {:-Deb

PS  Paul looks foreign to me too  :lol:
PillowThrowDecor


Posts: 1096


« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 11:43:01 am »

I am going to try and answer your questions here Callidora...

It took me awhile to "get it" too. I just could not understand why people tweeted useless its.

Reading all the tweets on twitter is like... walking into a bar and hearing all kinds of conversations from every table.  Chatter everywhere.  You just cruise along, sort of like table  hopping and just listen (read) for a second or two to see if there is anything interesting that they are talking about.  If not you just keep moving around this bar/lounge and keep listening for something funny, interesting, informative. Everyone once in awhile you will be able to add to the conversation with something brilliant and comment with a "tweet".  

For the longest time I just listened and listened and followed everybody that looks interesting. I went into "different bars", you know ... where the crafty people hang out, then where the social media hang out, then where all the designers hang out and I follow everybody that looks interesting.  That's my problem because I follow some really really fascinating people... I get so totally sucked into the screen when they come online.

The people that you like... you try and help them by "retweeting" RT what they just said so you can help spread the word... as hopefully they will RT what you say.  Very powerful. I may tweet one of my new pillows and get 5 views and in Tweetdeck I can see if one of my followers RT my message and sometimes my views will jump to 20 or 30 because they RT and a friend of theirs RT. Awesome.

We are all icraft buddies (followers) of each other hopefully.  If you are not following us get on it. So... if you mark you tweets with #icraft (anywhere in your 140 characters, at the front or the end it doesn't matter) I can find your tweets by replacementing with #icraft even if your tweets have disappeared from my "twitterfeed".  Your twitterfeed may hold up to 100 messages and then they disappear in space somewhere but are recorded in the bowels of Twitter somehow.  Using this # thingy called a hashtag  lets me replacement certain conversations that I missed earlier in the day in stead of just hanging out for hours staring at the screen waiting for someone to say something interesting.

Get rid of (unfollow) the pimps and trashy tarts.  I block everyone trying to sell me the "I earned $500 or got 500 followers" routine. I do not autofollow everyone ... there are lots of BOTS and people with 55,000 followers that are not going to "have a relationship" with me. Dump 'em. Yes... you want to build followers but build with some reasonable quality.

Sorry I am so long and so simplified with rather weird analogies but this is how it was explained to me because I didn't get it either.

The result for me is that I have lots of friends and buddies from around the world that we can say a quick hi every few days and we help each other get our messages out around the world, literally!... you just never know out there who will bump into a pillow that they like or know someone else that may like it.... Hence you build your following to get help with ReTweets.  It is so simple to RT with Tweetdeck!  And I can see at a glance in the "mentions" column if anyone is talking about me. Or in the "Direct Message" column if someone is speaking to me directly. I hate those auto DM's that are just pimping their own crappy stuff / interests.  Remember you need to earn relationships before you can count on your buddies to get your own selling or personal message out. Start by RT'ing some others. I love RT'ing the intelligent techies.. they are fascinating to me as well as the decor/designers.

When you send a message that you want retweeted don't make it too long... leave space of about 18 to 20 characters so there is room for the next person to RT and have their name on the tweet too.  Practice and you will get the hang of it remarkable quickly!

Phewwww... sorry I am so long winded here.

Quote from: "Callidora"
I've been on Twitter for a year, but I don't get it.  

What does the #icraft do? Where do I put it?  At the beginning of a message, at the end?

 Should I get rid of the people I'm following who are constantly advertising weird web services and products.  It's like they are NOT real people, just robodialers.  
Or it is better to have higher numbers?
Callidora


Posts: 38


« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 11:59:52 am »

That is the best explanation I've had yet!  Going to go try to sort it all out Smiley
PillowThrowDecor


Posts: 1096


« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 12:03:43 pm »

I will be back shortly to explain... you WILL CONQUER AND LEAD THE WORLD WITH TWITTER WHEN WE ARE FINISHED!  Smiley

Ok... I am back... and I can "come back" to this bost by hitting the "edit" button on this post.  Love that button Smiley

Oops I deleted too much of your quote...

Quote from: Sirocco
Well, it looks like we are going to be working with Twitter again. We worked with Twitter at the last Boot Camp and I was completely mystified by it. I still am. In a way I am happy that I will get to try to tackle it again but I am also dreading it.
PillowThrowDecor


Posts: 1096


« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 01:15:32 pm »

In GalleriaLinda's post below there are a lot of symbols. She is tweeting a "list" of good people to follow.  

Firstly the RT means that she is "retweeting" something that someone else wrote.  right after the RT we see @SackReligious.  the @ thingy is how Twitter addresses us... it turns "Sackreligious" from a word to a Twitter address by making it @Sackreligious.  Then we see another RT with "@andreasjewelry " right behind it. So this means that Linda retweeted @sackreligious who retweeted @andreasjewelry... three people have sent or resent this message.  This is an example of Twitter at its best.  If each of these people has, say 2000 followers, that means this message has circulated to at least 6000 people.  It maybe that 3 or 4 of their followers found this interesting and  RT it too 6 hours later because they saw their name in it in Tweetdeck and they send it out to another crowd of people.  If your name is on that list, your name has been passed around the world even before you got your first cup of coffee this morning!!! Cool huh???

Why do we make these lists??? Because we all want to know good people to follow and be followed by good people... we get sort of like cliques in the "bar atmosphere"... this is good. So you will often see "good tweeps to follow" ... click on each of these peoples names/addresses and check them out by reading their bio, follow them if you like, and if you like them all, retweet the message.  Sometimes the message gets to long and the Tweetdeck message line goes red.  that means you have to start deleting something in that line.  Sometimes I very carefully edit and use "Twitter speak"... "for you" becomes 4 U.  thank you for the Retweet becomes. Thx 4 RT... thus saving you 10 or 15 precious characters.  You learn to be succinct!!! Sometimes you may have to cut the last address or two until your red in the text line disappears and the test reappears.  If there is a link in the message carefully preserve the link and cut something else.  For us sellers links are important.  No point about bragging about your new bag if there is no pic to look at.  

Twitter conversations need to go zoom zoom. Tweetdeck will take a long link that you have copied from your address bar and shorten it into something that looks like hyrogliphics.  Don't try and figure that one out it doesn't matter.  The cool thing about shortening your links in Tweetdeck is that the shortening software that Twitter uses automatically  keeps statistics on how many times your link has been clicked on.  I love peeking at how many times my link has been peeped at.  Smiley  When I promote an item several times I like to use the same shortened address so that the statistical count of views GROWSSSSS.  Makes me feel very popular Smiley

Starting Thursday evening you will see a lot of these lists of names with #FF... that means Follow Friday which is the day that everyone saves for promoting other people as well as their selves as worthy people to follow.  Some people just blindly retweet #FF messages.  By the way the hashtag means that you can replacement using #FF and find a gazillion messages containing FF lists.  It is not advisable to blindly retweet anything.  Always check it out because you may be retweeting about badgirls, naughty boys and disgusting videos and useless get rich quick con artists.

Below ever tweet in very fine faint letters you will see something like sent via or by the web... which means it was sent in Twitter, or from Tweetdeck (that's the application or program that I am encouraging you to use), or Hootsuite (another application or program  that is another tool that works with twitter that is really cool), or sent by "XYZ' which tells us the name of the program or API (application) that it was sent from.  why this is sometimes important is that there are some programs that are able to spit out a tweet every hour or whatever interval you set it at.  This is sometimes a good thing if used in moderation.  Linda has some of our Bootcamp tweets on auto pilot because she doesn't have time to run to her computer every hour, change hats, tweet, change hat, go back to work. This way she can set auto pilot for certain messages and still has the freedom to jump in at any hour and send a human message without upsetting her auto messages.  We will be learning these too eventually.

Programs that auto send messages must be used very carefully.  When I see that I am trying to have a twitter realationship with a robot I dump em.... and I can usually tell if the mesage is being sent on auto pilot, from their cel phone or by human delivery like Tweetdeck.  Tweetdeck doesn't have any super human qualities... Using it is like putting on a pair of sunglasses on a bright day... all of a sudden you can see through all the Twitter flash more clearly and in a more organized fashion... its a "control panel" really.

Your new items were tweeted for you by icraft.  Isn't that cool!!!  Icraft has all of our new listings set up on a robotics type system. Although @icraft has many followers those followers already understand that it is an auto feed and they are not often going to be able to hang out and chat back and forth with @icraft. That's ok...

Also icraft has ALL OF OUR BOOTCAMP POSTS ON AN AUTOFEED!  If you have wondered why I have rather silly or overstated subject lines it is because I know it is going to get circulated on Twitter.  So I like using attention getting subject lines to draw readers in.  You would be amazed at how many Twitter followers come and peek at our ongoings here in Bootcamp.  I am sure they are dying with envy wanting to be part of our  crowd. Smiley  Real people like to read about real people and that is what we are all here... think of all of us Bootcampers around a big dining room table having thanksgiving turkey every day and all those peepers out there with their faces pressed up against the window drooling wishfully Smiley

So from here on in... always put a little "splash" and "colour" in your subject lines and you too will stand out as a fascinating person and strangers will follow you too.  Smiley Sort of... grin grin

Tweetdeck popups at first were annoying and I turned them off except I kinda liked it to know that someone was tweeting me and if I was on line at that moment I would interrupt what I was doing and went and tweeted with them a bit. These 10 or 15 second chitchats can get very addictive so keep a strong hold... LOL.  My compromise was to turn the sound off on them so at least it didn't distract me from across the room.

In my real job of many years I had no time for people that had nothing better to do than pick fluff from their bellybutton or other people that spend their whole lives chasing sticks and balls... aka.. golf, baseball, tennis and other useless activities... LOL... I am sure I am hitting a nerve here. My business/ life moved at warp speed and I haven't changed much in my retirement.  So... I unfollow the navel pickers, sports fanatics and the other people that  are offereing debt reduction, fat reduction, etc. You do not need followers that don't make you look good BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME WILL SNOOP THROUGH YOUR FOLLOWERS TO SEE WHO YOU "HANG OUT " WITH BEFORE I follow.  The old addage... "birds of a feather flock together" is very true on Twitter.  If you want to have a really personal navel picking experience on twitter set up a different account name and don't do any business on it.  Hey... none of you know that I might have a secret life aka "Juicy Lucy" on twitter... LOLOLOLOL... NOT!!!

Again sorry for being long winded but this is the best way I can explain because I am new to twitter too and have zero technical jargon.

Hope this helps... If not just ask again and maybe I can have GalleriaLinda take a run at it or one of our other VERY SMART BOOTCAMP ELVES.

Cheers

Christine


Quote from: "Sirocco"
.... but the post make no sense. Just a lot of symbols! Here is a post from Linda:

GalleriaLinda  
RT @SackReligious: RT @andreasjewelry Promo peeps 4artists 2 #FF @handmadehighway @HandmadeNewsorg @IndieCEO @indiespotting @JustForFunHMN26 minutes ago from HootSuite

What do the symbols RT, @, #FF mean? What is HootSuit? What exactly does this post say? It is meaningless to me.

I recently added three new items to my Icraft store and suddenly I found those items being tweeted on Twitter by Icraft. How did that happen?

I installed TweetDeck and now I am getting pop-ups every so often that stay just long enough be a nuisance but not long enough to read. I turned it off!

Paul C
http://siroccostradingpost.blogspot.com/
storybeader


Posts: 69


« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2009, 01:16:47 pm »

I love the analogy to the bar.  OK, I'll try.
What about the people you get on your email, who say they are following you   :?   Should you automatically follow them?  I thought people followed me to get their numbers higher.  Now I see what large numbers are all about.     Shocked   {:-Deb
PillowThrowDecor


Posts: 1096


« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 01:37:59 pm »

Follow only people you find interesting.  Unfollow or BLOCK people that are annoying or look dangerous to your reputation.  there are lots of quick buck bad guys out there right now... Also beware of people that have these auto DM's (Direct message).

Personally hate it when someone says something like this... "oh thank you for following me. Lets be friends and sign up on my facebook fanpage, and stop by at my store at xyz and get 15 % off cause ur my best buddy now and can you pretty please RT all my Tweets so I can rich and famous, yadda yadda... dump 'em.

I find that I DO NOT GET A LOT OF MY NEW FOLLOWER EMAIL ALERTS.  Somehow all the schmucks get in under the radar.  How do they do that???

I go to my twitter Home Page and manually click on my followers and check to see who is following me and decide whether or not I want to follow back.. some of course I am already following.  Sadly I have not received notification on some super people following but didn't get a notification and then they unfollowed me (I get notifications on this also with a special program that I will share with you shortly).

I feel really badly sometimes when I loose a good follower that I didn't even know about so Every day check manually!!!  I often go and send a personal tweet when I start following them and make a point of getting human with them so that they know I am a good "Tweep".

Cheers
Christine
storybeader


Posts: 69


« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 02:00:11 pm »

3. Make sure you put your icraft site as a link in your profile, where you are from, and what you are interested in. Practice sending one or a few tweets.

OK, I see my profile, but where should I put icraft  :?:
In my profile?  As you can tell, I'm new at this...
Back to work, bbl
PillowThrowDecor


Posts: 1096


« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 02:06:07 pm »

I have 2 store addesses in mine... go have a look at mine it will make more sense  http://twitter.com/pillowthrowdeco... incase my profile didn't automatically show up  click on that tab on my name.

Cheers

Christine

Quote from: "storybeader"
3. Make sure you put your icraft site as a link in your profile, where you are from, and what you are interested in. Practice sending one or a few tweets.

OK, I see my profile, but where should I put icraft  :?:
In my profile?  As you can tell, I'm new at this...
Back to work, bbl
PillowThrowDecor


Posts: 1096


« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 02:18:38 pm »

I goofed.. I have relocated this post here... sorry if I messed up the order of things.

Go read my bio at http://www.twitter.com/pillowthrowdeco. jealously count each space in ur bio!!!

Hashtags like #icraft, #bootcamp, #handmade, #jewelry, #pillows, #decor, #interior design are to be put in your TWEETS not your bio.

These are a lot of the hashtags that I use to replacement... or to be found.

I know a lot of Twitter peeps love to replacement decor ideas using #decor in their twitter replacementes.... some replacementing applications will replacement on the word decor just fine too. But generally a hashtag is a most deffinate way of finding or being found... the problem is remembering, and having the space to put the hashtagged word in.

Go and read your twitter feed and you will start seeing some messages with these kinds of hashtagged words.

Cheers

Chrisitne
Sirocco


Posts: 23


« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 03:00:28 pm »

Christine, Thank you for the explanation. It is all beginning to make some sense. I know it takes some time to write all those meticulous answers and I sincerely appreciate your taking the time.

Now one more question. How do I retweet? I assume that from the Twitter home page I would I would just copy and paste someone’s tweet and resend. Do I add the RT? I have not figured out how to retweet from Tweetdeck.

And, I just now saw your pillow on Snowbell Jewelry. I am beginning to see how this Twitter could work!

Paul C
http://siroccostradingpost.blogspot.com/
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